Legislature(2007 - 2008)CAPITOL 106

03/27/2008 03:00 PM House HEALTH, EDUCATION & SOCIAL SERVICES


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ SB 285 STATE INTERVENTION IN SCHOOL DISTRICT TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+= HB 386 ENERGY SUBSIDY FOR SCHOOLS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 386(HES) Out of Committee
*+ HB 358 NEEDY CHILDREN: EDUC./ SOCIAL WORKERS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 306 PRE-ELEMENTARY SCHOOL PROGRAMS/PLANS TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 306(HES) Out of Committee
HB 386-ENERGY SUBSIDY FOR SCHOOLS                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:15:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON announced  that the next order of  business would be                                                               
HOUSE BILL  NO. 386, "An  Act relating  to an energy  subsidy for                                                               
public schools."                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
THOMAS BROWN,  Intern to Representative Gabrielle  LeDoux, Alaska                                                               
State   Legislature,  speaking   on   behalf   of  the   sponsor,                                                               
Representative  LeDoux, informed  the committee  that HB  386 was                                                               
drafted  in  response  to  requests   made  by  school  districts                                                               
throughout the  state.  He  noted that gas prices  have increased                                                               
110  percent in  the last  13 months  and, even  with the  recent                                                               
passage  of funding  for education,  school  districts will  have                                                               
difficulties maintaining  budgets.  Mr. Brown  referred to budget                                                               
reports submitted  by Carl  Rose, the  Executive Director  of the                                                               
Association of  Alaska School Boards, indicating  the increase in                                                               
energy  costs involved  in  operating a  school  from January  to                                                               
March,  2007.   He further  described a  variety of  conservation                                                               
measures taken at schools across the state.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:18:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROSES recalled  that one  of the  factors of  the                                                               
area cost  differential is  the difference in  the price  of fuel                                                               
for the different  areas of the state.  He  stated his opposition                                                               
to  the bill,  as  it  is written,  based  on  the language  that                                                               
directs  the state  to pay  50 percent  of the  cost of  fuel, as                                                               
opposed to 50 percent of the increase  in the cost of fuel.  With                                                               
appropriate amendments, he stated, he could support the concept.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:20:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON questioned the  inclusion of FY 06 budgeted                                                               
energy costs.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:21:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. BROWN explained that many  school districts have attempted to                                                               
mitigate  their own  cost issues  prior to  requesting additional                                                               
funding.  However, these schools are in immediate need.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:22:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JIM  LANGTON,  Superintendent,  Denali Borough  School  District,                                                               
described  the   increases  in  utility  costs   for  his  school                                                               
district.  With the nearby Usibelli  Coal mine one of the schools                                                               
in  his district  is equipped  to  heat with  coal under  certain                                                               
conditions.  Although  it is not possible  to predict accurately,                                                               
he estimated an increase of 10 to  15 percent for next year.  Dr.                                                               
Langton stated that  energy costs are eating into  his budget and                                                               
instructional  cuts  are  still  being   made  in  spite  of  the                                                               
additional  base   student  allocation   (BSA)  funding   to  his                                                               
district.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:25:06 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROSES asked  what was  budgeted last  year versus                                                               
next year.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
DR. LANGTON answered  that the FY 06-07 actual  cost was $167,000                                                               
for  electricity  and  $260,000  for  fuel.  This  year's  budget                                                               
request  will be  $170,000 [for  electricity]  and $277,000  [for                                                               
fuel].  He anticipated exceeding those predictions.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROSES  observed that there was  a $30,000 increase                                                               
in total costs.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
DR. LANGTON said that the increase is closer to $40,000.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:26:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROSES remarked:                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Are you aware that this  particular bill would not even                                                                    
     pick  up  the increase,  but  would  give you  half  of                                                                    
     everything that  you spent.   So if you  are projecting                                                                    
     an increase  of $40,000  this bill,  as it  is written,                                                                    
     would actually give you $256,000.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:26:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DR. LANGTON stated that he is  not aware of the specific language                                                               
of the bill.   Nevertheless, a majority of the  $100 BSA increase                                                               
in funds  is going  to replace school  improvement grants  in his                                                               
district.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:27:42 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRUCE  JOHNSON, Director,  Alaska Association  of School  Boards,                                                               
stated his organization's support  for school districts receiving                                                               
assistance for the extraordinary costs related to energy.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:28:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON closed public testimony.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:28:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROSES  moved that  the committee  adopt Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 1, such  that [language relating that]  the state shall                                                               
pay 50 percent  of the increase in energy costs  for the previous                                                               
fiscal year [will be inserted].                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
There being no objection, Conceptual Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
4:29:28 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FAIRCLOUGH  clarified that the subsidy  would only                                                               
be for the previous year.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROSES  confirmed  that  this  would  pick  up  50                                                               
percent of  the cost of the  increase from FY07 to  FY08 and then                                                               
from FY08 to FY09.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:30:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARDNER  noted that the  bill was written  for the                                                               
fiscal year  2007, but  the intent  of the  amendment was  not to                                                               
include the increase from 2006 to 2007.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROSES  re-stated the intent of  the amendment that                                                               
was adopted.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON confirmed that the subsidy was for two years.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:31:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   SEATON  asked   the  EED   to  comment   on  the                                                               
implementation of the amendment.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
EDDY  JEANS, Director,  School  Finance  and Facilities  Section,                                                               
Department of Education and Early  Education,  explained that the                                                               
amount for  FY07 is known, and  there is an estimate  of FY08, so                                                               
an  appropriation  could  be  made   for  FY09.    The  financial                                                               
statements would be  available in FY09, thus the  amount could be                                                               
calculated and distributed, and  supplemental funds requested, if                                                               
necessary.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:32:18 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON surmised that  the appropriation would be a                                                               
capital  budget item  this  year  and the  FY09  budget would  be                                                               
immediately  paid to  the school  districts for  the past  fiscal                                                               
year.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:32:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JEANS stated  that the  funding  would be  allocated to  the                                                               
school  districts in  FY09 based  on 50  percent of  the increase                                                               
from  FY07 to  FY08.    Another appropriation  in  FY10 would  be                                                               
provided for the increase from FY08 to FY09.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:33:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KELLER  asked what effect  this would have  on the                                                               
requirement  that  a school  district  spend  70 percent  of  its                                                               
budget on instruction.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:33:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JEANS answered  that these  funds would  free up  money that                                                               
schools  are  now  spending  on  non-instructional  items.    For                                                               
example, funds spent  on fuel could be re-directed  back into the                                                               
instructional component.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:34:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROSES asked what a  $100 increase to the BSA would                                                               
cost.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:34:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  JEANS  responded that  a  $100  increase  to the  BSA  costs                                                               
roughly $22 million.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  ROSES compared  the estimated  FY08 energy  costs                                                               
and stated  that the amount of  $19,542,000 is just short  of the                                                               
amount  of the  cost of  the increased  BSA.   Also, this  action                                                               
would  bring the  total funding  to the  amount requested  by the                                                               
governor for education.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:35:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. JEANS pointed out that  the $19,542,000 remains to be reduced                                                               
by 50 percent, as directed by the amendment.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE ROSES agreed.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:35:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 4:36:21 PM to 4:37:02 PM.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:37:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KELLER  stated his  opposition to  the bill  as it                                                               
does  not  appear  that  the money  appropriated  to  the  school                                                               
districts would be used for instructional purposes.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:37:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR WILSON opined  that this money would go  to instruction, as                                                               
schools are currently redirecting funds to pay fuel bills.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:38:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON  moved that  the committee  adopt Amendment                                                               
2,  such  that the  language  "50  percent"  is deleted  and  new                                                               
language inserted  specifying that the  subsidy would be  for the                                                               
increase in fuel cost.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARDNER objected.    She then  asked whether  the                                                               
adoption of the amendment would  be the equivalent of the passage                                                               
of a $200 increase to the BSA [by the legislature].                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:39:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
There followed a brief discussion, and members agreed.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:39:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FAIRCLOUGH  stated her  opposition to the  bill if                                                               
Amendment 2  is adopted.   She stressed that cost  increases must                                                               
be shared.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:40:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll  call vote  was taken.   Representatives  Seaton, Gardner,                                                               
Roses,   and   Wilson   voted    in   favor   of   Amendment   2.                                                               
Representatives   Fairclough  and   Keller   voted  against   it.                                                               
Therefore, Amendment 2 was adopted by a vote of 4-2.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:41:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE SEATON moved to report  HB 386, as amended, out of                                                               
committee  with individual  recommendations and  the accompanying                                                               
fiscal notes.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FAIRCLOUGH objected.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:41:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SEATON withdrew  his motion.   He  then moved  to                                                               
report  HB  386 as  amended,  out  of committee  with  individual                                                               
recommendations and the updated forthcoming fiscal note.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE FAIRCLOUGH objected.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:42:30 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll  call vote  was taken.   Representatives  Seaton, Gardner,                                                               
Roses,   Wilson  voted   in  favor   of  HB   386,  as   amended.                                                               
Representatives   Keller  and   Fairclough   voted  against   it.                                                               
Therefore,  HB  386  was  reported   out  of  the  House  Health,                                                               
Education and Social Services Standing  Committee by a vote of 4-                                                               
2.                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                

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